also, wayne lapierre, said previously that schools should be gun-free zones. now he said everyone in the school should be armed. the man does any u-turn that suit him, and yet he's winning this war in washington. why is he winning it? why does the nra continue to wield this power? i've got a tweet here from ted nugent. ask michael moore this. will you ever admit your "bowling for columbine" big lie is a propagandist smear against the good families of the nra and the honor american legendary freedom warrior charlton heston? >> listen, ted and i are both from michigan but there's a reason why in detroit we call him the motor city mad man. you know, he's -- he's been off his rocker for a long time. i feel bad about that because he actually had some good music back in the day, but, listen. the thing here with wayne lapierre, who by the way actually i thought he's aged pretty well. >> by the way, he's never come on the show. i repeatedly ask him. lapierre, if you're watching. >> that's odd. >> go on every other show. come on my show. >> they are generally not afrai